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Final thoughts - Jerry Springer style:

Journal Entry: Sat Sep 19, 2009, 8:00 AM
  • Mood: Grouchy
  • Watching: The shitty weekend cartoon shows
  • Playing: Mario Kart Wii
  • Eating: Biscuits
  • Drinking: Water
That's right, Jerry Springer style - where the least entertaining, but the most valuable material is saved for after the scenes where disgruntled people rip at each other :fight:

The fact is - while I still don't fully believe it wasn't based off my Where subscriber's money goes. There's just as little proving it was so after talking with the maker I decided to let this ONE instance slide - I still stand by everything I said and I think what those said in their comments still remains valid to anything really - so I reckon no-one wasted any time here, since it proved a point for future events that will inevitably piss me off in the future...so now that you all know - don't do it ;)

Still, I think it provided an excuse for me to now talk about something that struck me a while beforehand when I saw another artwork that was similar to mine, but not entirely - otherwise I wouldn't have complimented the artist like I did, first - some visuals before I keep talking:


The first one is mine, the second is from another artist I watch and have nothing against, so this isn't a "bad" feature again people ;) but it's an example of how two similar works cannot cause the artists to clash when they see each other...Mine was on here before his and I was actually a little shocked when I saw it in my inbox. But I noticed that although the two artworks are similar concepts, they are just different enough to be unique and so that picture didn't bother me as much a sthat other did since I sill think the resemblence of the island ones was still scaringly dead-on. My final thought is - if you must draw something, at least think outside the box in terms of colour, composition, lighting, angle, perspective etc - since chances are - your "original" idea has probably been done before...For those who do generic stuff like portraits of celebrities, photo's of flowers or pictures of planets floating over a landscape or whatever - there's less stress there since those have been done to death anyway and nobody "owns" those things. Just like nobody here owns islands and the dA logo - but I was the first-ever to combine the two and one can't blame me for getting upset, that's like Buzz Aldrin telling everyone that HE was the first person to step on the moon :diny:

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I was also reminded of me being a judge for the "DeviantWORLD" contest, and once again the stupidity of people surfaces there too, just look at the entries [link] - half of them have NO relavence to the topic whatsoever...there you have it - 50% of you contestants have already FAILED in my eyes :judge:

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`KeremGo Dec 14, 2009  Professional Digital Artist
Some people say when I upload a work that they saw it on their dream before. I believe that...

Because I believe something that sound weird some of the people out there that we are sharing same thoughts and dreams in some dimension and all the great, bright and beautiful ideas about anything (art, music, science, literature ect.) coming from a great mind in the center of the universe which we call God. I think that's universe's way to send messages through people.

I sometimes imagine movie scenes and saw them in movies after years before first time I think of them. Same happened on art pieces too.

For me that proves that there's no "out there" nor "in here" - we are all connected with each other, connected with nature, animals even microbes and of course we are all connected with universe and God source.

And it's so beautiful so share the dreams like that...
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:iconpriteeboy:
`priteeboy Dec 14, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll admit I've had moments like that too :nod: though (and this is way outdated now) I was complaining about how someone copied my "Where subscriber's money goes" less than a month after me submitting it using the same programs and methods and yet acting like they never heard of my own (which is impossible, it made it to "popular" and Daily Deviations in the first week and remained one of the most popular deviations submitted that month :hmm:) if their came either sooner or way later then I may have believed them, but to me the timing seemed too perfect :hmm:
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:iconpeannlui:
Mood: Frustrated ~peannlui Nov 15, 2009  Professional General Artist
It's not really a blantant copy per se here: no offence, but I do see a lot or artwork that unconsicously follow cliches and a lot of reoccuring themes pop up in art. Many digital artists I find have a limited reference pool (usually Star Wars/Lord of The Rings/Frazetta) that needs a good cleaning out. I stopped buying Imagine FX magazine for over a year, as I was so pissed off at the Reader submitted art section where they had TWO examples of each of these themes but done by different artists, and already printed beyond salvation:

1. Flat flowy Mucha style
2. Circular motif with cross legged semi-topless Goddess types
3. Asian girls in flowy red dresses

D:< I recently bought their 50th issue, and laughed at their cover competition where 60% of the entries were just another play on the 'pretty female head with elaborate headress and flowy bits around the borders' theme. Even the actual cover does this, and done by a PRO! D:
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:iconpriteeboy:
`priteeboy Nov 15, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh don't worry, the two here are actually examples showing how two works can be similar but it dosn't matter. The first few pages of comments were aimed at someone who made a direct replica of my Where subscriber's money goes which was featured at first :hmm:

I've neve rbought one of those magazine sin it either for practically the same reasons...I'm tired of seeing busty asian furturistic CG girls dominating every cover and every featured artist page...it's such a shame how drawing that kind of stuff is pretty much the only way to get recognised by the masses, probably because those who aspire to that kind of stuff are desperate little nerds who can never get enough of cyberpunk CG chicks :roll: and even worse is how - just as you said, they're all professionals being worshipped as Gods, but they're really no different to millions of other professionals out there who draw exactly the same thing :bored:

Oh, and robots too, if it's not a CG girl on the front cover, you can bet its a android of some sort :movingon:
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:iconpeannlui:
~peannlui Nov 16, 2009  Professional General Artist
Yeah, sorry for not finishing my last point there.... gosh, I could hug you! :hug: (Your dA island is amazing, btw!) That sort of hyper-popular CG art is quite rampant on Conceptart as you know, and a while back I had to convince some disheartened forum member to just go submit their art anyway, as they didn't draw the cyborgs and cyberpunk girl images that were bombarding the site. The artist's world seemed very small to them that day, when it really wasn't. :(

True, you couldn't buy more than two Imagine FX mags in a row (my record was five, but that was the first ever five issues, and the inside art got worse for the hefty cover price). But I'm aiming to submit work to them anyway - not just for the exposure :p, but I have new themes and subjects to explore with whatever (digital) art skills I have. Forgive me for saying this, but you should really submit YOUR work to IFX too! They'll leap on it!
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:iconpriteeboy:
`priteeboy Nov 16, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I havn't joined conceptart or any of those sites...I'm sure the artists there all have good intentions but to me it just strikes me as being a bit eletist, regardless of how good I get at my own, I can't stand anyone dissing "lower" artists, probably because it took me way longer than normal to get where I am now and so I have way too many heartbreaking moments of rejection of my art in the past because it could never be up to standards :p I'm on another site that's generally pretty good but once again - there's a lot of bitching about "all the crappy artists on dA" I don't like hearing...those "crappy artists" could be their most loyal watchers :hmm:

I won't submit to IFX. I mean, if they contact me one day then I won't turn it away either (not sacrifice my one big chance!) but for now I don't desire it enough to actively go for it (plus, the longer I wait - the better, I would surely be better and faster at what I do in a years time than now :plotting:)
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:iconpeannlui:
Mood: Joy ~peannlui Nov 16, 2009  Professional General Artist
Ok, I respect your wishes then. :nod: That is all. ;) There are great artists on dA who never start drama and keep humble, but never get any exposure for their work. :(

You're a much better artist than I am just by working solo, esp with your Vue work. :D But waiting too long just to get better or waiting for people to call you for work can also be bad for self-improvement. If I got more work, I'd have more feedback and time arrangement on future projects, as well as getting paid for it (substantially!).

I've also had very bad experiences with a major manga publisher last year, as well as getting any f**k all exposure through their company that they promise (and give) to their other (admittedly less skilled but more 'dynamic') artists. Still, I hope you never drop Art for any feeble reason, my good sir, as that's the worst a budding artist can do! :salute:
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:iconchewa9:
wasn't it Buzz Lightyear with the first step on the moon?

XD joke
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:iconnoxlamiarum:
~NoxLamiarum Nov 4, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:/ it is a shame so many people copy artists' works--or worse, flat-out steal them--but that's one of the downsides to the interwebs. On the one hand, great artists like you want to share your work, but then 12-year-old n00bs come alone and post them all over the internet without even mentioning who the original artist was -__-;; It sucks.

about that contest.. haha, I happened to be looking through the recent Halloween contest entries.. and like 1 in 4 was something completely random and not even Halloween related..

there should be some common sense test to join dA xD
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:iconpriteeboy:
`priteeboy Nov 4, 2009  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I know, I mean - it's not those two up there I'm complaining about, it was another thing from before that was practically a copy of one of my most original and loved works. And yeah, they denie dit was inspired by me or even denied that they never saw mine at all, which is ludicrous since it appeared a month after mine made its fast climb to fame, I don't know how someone interested in that type of art could not have seen it :p

I finished judging that contest recently, needless to say it wa shard to pick a winner because most of them were just...disappointing :| the first-place winner I admit was clear to me, but even the runners up made me think I should have been an entrant rathe rthan a judge...it would have been the easiest 1 year subscription and othe rprizes I would have earned :evillaugh: oh well, let the baby have his bottle I suppose =p
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