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Cleaning up the Crap

Journal Entry: Tue Jan 17, 2012, 4:41 AM
  • Mood: Daily Needs
  • Listening to: The loud whistle of a rendering laptop
  • Reading: Nothing
  • Watching: Youtube videos
  • Playing: Kirby's Adventure
  • Eating: Cookies
  • Drinking: Strawberry Milk
Well I left last year on a negative note, and had to get that downer off my page, so now - having mostly gotten over it I guess it's time to make a new entry. However since I feel like I need an excuse to journal about anything at all, this time I needed to make one. And what better way to start off a new year than trimming the fat from previous years that's mentally burdening me. I've already gotten rid of dusty old e-mails from years past and when I'm up to it I'm gonna do the same with notes here too. I inherited my lack of will to just throw old stuff out from my mother and sometimes even on the internet I let minor sentimental value let me cling onto old crap I or nobody else cares about anymore, and that just produces clutter over time. The reason why I'm mentioning this is because you *might* get "updates" from me involving existing artworks. I hope not, but if so then just ignore them since nothing about them has changed, I'm just editing their comments that have links to related works that were deleted (yes, I actually bother getting rid of misleading/broken links since they annoy me when I encounter them) So just bear with me. Most of the ones deleted are in my scraps anyway, then to fill those gaps I might move some older works from my main gallery to my scraps. I think a "gallery purge" is healthy as a once a year ritual for any artist who submits fairly regularly. Nobody likes having to browse a huge gallery to reach the end, so what better way to solve it then by scrapping the bad and totally deleting the awful ;)

I also need to take notes about this month down since I'm gonna see if I can do one of those "Summary of Art" memes I see people upload every December if I decide to go through with it. Showing the artwork is one thing, but what really adds character is when the artist explains what was going through their mind that month and how it reflected what they created and how prolifically they created it. I know I'm gonna remember nothing about this month by the end of the year unless I write something down :slow:

January - like many it fills me with a little bit of optimism. The end of the year seems to wear a lot of people down, so the start of one naturally has the opposite effect, as we all hope for changes. I sure I do, but I'm still realistic enough to not set my watch to it. However I'm feeling much better than before, but not all that artistic still. I wanted to make more than just my T-Shirt contest entry this month but I'm at a loss of what to start as my own thing for fun before going back to commissions, maybe because I haven't yet fully un-burdened myself with half-finished other stuff.

Speaking of which, I might as well promote it one last time. While I still think panhandling for votes in pathetic, I guess I'm gonna have to if everyone else is just to level out the playing field. Kinda like how taking steroids is a pathetic way to win a marathon, but if all the other racers are doing it, well - you have to keep up just for sake of balance or you'll be left at a huge disadvantage created by your own modesty. So if you like it, then vote, your reward is for me to stop talking right...NOW!
Little Green Llamas by priteeboy

I do have something pretty cool lined up for later, it may even start a meme of its own :shh:

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Little-kaiyou-Kame Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
haha!! old artwork...*shiver* Actually some of my work have disappeared off deviantart strangely and unknown to me LOL. They vanished themselves~ XD

you're a reaaaally reaaaaally organised guy from what I've read in this journal! :XD:
If you can keep up writing your monthly "summaries of Art", at the end of the year - what an accomplishment!
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh man, I hope that doesn't happen to me :fear:

Yeah, I can be very organised when it comes to stuff I actually care about :lol: And I hope I don't forget to write something for each month :fingerscrossed:
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Isho13 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hope you have a good year. :hug: I don't know if it's selfish, but I don't want you to be depressed because when people feel depressed, well, they don't feel artistic, and I want to see more artwork from you. :yum:
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lol, most artists get depression. I definitely think there's a connection between creativity and often low mood swings :hmm:
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Isho13 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I have them too, but it's not like I'm having a rough time in my life or anything. I think I just have a damaged brain.
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Aha, I see you suffer from the same habit of clinging onto vaguely sentimental online stuff too. I try to be brutal when getting rid of it, even though it's slightly traumatic sometimes. =p
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah. It's funny how we get so attached to stuff online almost as much as stuff in real life. I guess because I've put so much into dA since joining that it has become like a second life even, and sometimes fun to look back at the stuff I did years ago (but a little embarrassing too, but that's how life is anyway, we facepalm ourselves when we see what we said and did years ago :facepalm:) Though I have to make the decisions which ones are really a part of my history and which ones were just done for the sake of doing something, and only remove those :plotting:
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CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
Indeed, it can get annoying, especially that attachment to old art. I often get torn between getting rid of something or keeping it on the grounds that some other people may like it. =p
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Bowser81889 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That sounds good; at least you're not going on a gallery rampage like some other artists do and deleting every last thing they ever did to start fresh. Personally, I think it's nice to keep and hold onto old works no matter how embarassing--they help to tell a story. Sometimes some things, I'll concede, are better off left in the past...but for the most part, it's nice to have a visual representation of the timeline that built one's foundation for others to see.

Anyways, best of luck dude.
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I agree entirely. It sucks when good artists have some ridiculous breakdown because they're so insecure about their art (yeah, the same art that's so bad that it gets 1000 favourites apiece :wtf:) and delete it all. Most of my favourite artworks are never the artist's most popular ones and they're usually the first to go.

I still kept a lot of 2005/2007 submissions, even shitty ones where scenery looks flat and dull and characters look like retarded monkeys, all for that reason - they're part of my artistic history, I was genuinely proud of them at the time :XD: Plus I or no-one else can't appreciate what I can do now if they don't realize how much I sucked year ago :laughing: But I indeed don't need to keep all old works, just a varied sampling of them :)
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Bowser81889 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Usually when someone warns they're thinking about doing something drastic along those lines, I just tell them if they don't like it then they should at least put them in their scraps instead of deleting them entirely. Believe it or not, a lot of people still look at entire galleries and like to see how much the artist has improved up to the current day in time, so it's a good way to learn and connect in my honest opinion.

Exactly, exactly right dude. :) Most of us do grow in some way or another, and in that case it tells a unique story so it's good to hold onto that history.
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And that's why I "move to scraps" much more than I actually "delete" :D I don't think there's anything in my main gallery left I'd want to delete, I got rid of the worst in previous cleanups. Some might just be moved to scraps though, the ones deleted were in scraps already =p
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Bowser81889 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Ah, well that's a good way of going about it then. =P
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DragonforceDingo Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Seems you have the opposite problem of mine; your gallery is full of everything, while I can hardly force myself to finish anything I start working on XD Seriously, I have so many unfinished works on my laptop it's sad.
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Maybe you'll just have to knuckle down and promise yourself you won't start anything new until something else is finished ;)

I can't seem to do much these days, which means the ratio of older stuff stays higher, so I gotta get rid of scraps that are bad and them move some less-liked artworks to scraps. My page says I have 230 deviations - almost half are in fact just scraps or stuff I wouldn't bother showing people anyway :p
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DragonforceDingo Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Haha, I've tried that before. It never seems to work XD
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bluenova25 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
"I think a "gallery purge" is healthy as a once a year ritual for any artist who submits fairly regularly."
i dont like that at all :P it takes it away from peoples favorit's and then they cant even go back and look for it anymore... i have several in my favorites like that just because some deviant thought that it was crap and took it down :P now i can visit there awesome art work that they call crap ~_~;
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The difference is though is that many "good" artists label some of their own work "crap" when there are thousands who aspire to it still, and yes - I've forever lost some favourites I loved too. But the ones of mine I removed are rather pointless today. Some were just the original renders to artworks I completed later on that I only uploaded to show the difference between the raw 3D image and what I did with it in Photoshop - in this case I kept the "final" artworks but deleted the plain "before" renders (most only had a dozen faves at best anyway - they're not going to be missed by many :p) Others did have surprisingly large fave-counts - one had 150 or something and I wasn't sure about deleting it because of that, but I did since it was also a pointless modification of the original piece that had way more favourites anyway :shrug:
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bluenova25 Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2012
:meow: thats understandable :D tho, like you said, they wont be missed by many but they will still be missed ;P
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ctdsnark Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Heck,who DOESN'T delete stuff in favor of revised versions? :gallery:
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lol, that's one of the options dA gives you when asking why you're deleting it :lol:

I won't be revising them though, they're just old works with rather boring themes not worth re-doing anyway. Though I often think about whether I should re-make some others from the early years, to get the same idea down, only this time - have it actually look like how I imagined it :plotting:
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DTKinetic Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah man, I'm definitely a Pac-Rat myself, both my Email and my DA Inbox are loaded...(DA is at 250-260 MSGs though, I'm sure there are others far higher than that :lol:) but yeah this inspired me to do some cleaning out.

There is something about this year or time of year that does feel a little optimistic. I guess in year's perspective you're just looking forward instead of reflecting behind you. And I guess since late November and December was uneventful but did leave with that long looked-forward to relaxing Winter Break, I just feel refreshed and at a neutral position. :nod:
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I guess "a lot of messages" varies from person to person depending on how often they get them, if someone gets that many in a day they can't really be blamed for letting it get that far :lol: But for people who get less - that many messages are a sign of letting them go for too long. If there's one thing I'm obsessive about - it's dA, I make sure I check all new messages everyday, to avoid the problem of an overflowing inbox :phew:

I agree on the second part, there's no "looking back and wondering where the year went" it's all about looking forward. The earlier months of the year have always been my favourites :)
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LancelotPrice Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
I never throw anything away till in a moment of madness I throw away almost everything, and then too late, regret it forever after.
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bluenova25 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
:XD: you could always resubmit
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LancelotPrice Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Doesn't work when you've thrown your first sound system into the dumpster and it's been emptied.
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bluenova25 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
oh...well then.. that will teach you to not do that :D :D
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This sorta reminds me of the fact I wish I kept all my school workbooks. At the end of each school year I was so excited that another year of Hell was down the drain that I toss all my books out...

But I had SO MUCH cool drawings, sketches and ideas in them I drew when I was bored or when I was supposed to be doing my work. I hate myself for throwing out literally thousands of drawings I wish I could look back on now (plus I'd love to go back and look at the work I considered "hard" then, and then laugh at my horribly wrong answers :lmao:) If I could go back and not-thrown stuff out, it would actually be those.

They're probably turned into eco-friendly toilet paper by now :tp:
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draze Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012   Traditional Artist
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senses--fail Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012   Writer
Glad you're feeling better! :aww:
I know exactly how you feel with this whole new year clean-up phase. I'm not a regular enough submitter to really have a ton of stuff to purge from my gallery, but I have decided to create a zillion folders in my favourites and start organizing them. It'll probably take me till the end of this year if I ever DO finish, but wish me luck anyway! :D
A meme of its own, hmm? Well now I'm ridiculously curious! :eager: Any hints? ;)
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Lol, I'm just glad I don't fave too much. There's lots of stuff I could, but I try to limit myself and I've made generalized folders for that too. I would probably go an un-favourite ones I don't really like anymore, but there isn't many since I think before faving in the first place =p

Hmm, I guess I can say this new thing I have might make the often under-estimated Muro a bit more used :shh:
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senses--fail Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012   Writer
Hehe yeah, I really should limit myself more on faving stuff. I can't help it, when I see that 0 next to number of favourites it feels like my personal responsibility to find something to like in it. Worse yet? Comments: 0 I WANT TO GET RID OF IT! :chainsaw:
:paranoid: Muro, hmmm? Sounds interesting, very interesting. If in the near future you have a sudden and uncontrollable urge to share any more of your plans, I can keep a secret! ;) :plotting:
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creyk Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm glad you got over most of those bad feelings since your last journal^^
The new year will be just as good as you make it:nod:
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DeathInTheReaper Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh I know what you mean about cleaning out one's gallery. Mine is mostly full of work from forever ago and I've got nothing to fill the void. This year I want to try working harder on my art than last year so I can see a major improvement by January of 2013 (provided the world doesn't end in December :XD: ).

I've also got a really huge assortment of folders in my gallery that need to be looked through and condensed if I can because some of them (at least one that I know of) is unnecessary and makes more clutter.

I wish you luck in the contest! I forget when the deadline is but I can't wait to see the winning design. :)
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So far I've managed to drop 18 unnecessary submissions - most from years ago and which were moved to scraps ages ago anyway (one had five favourites still :lol:) It gets harder as I go along, since some - as a crap as they are - have a stronger emotional attachment than others, usually being a stepping stone kind of artwork. But I'm still not done yet. Imagine if everyone deleted just a few artworks they don't like or need anymore - the millions of Gigabytes worth of load taken off dA :relaxed:
I kinda hate how now scraps are added to the deviation counter on a person's page. It's saying I have a lot more in my gallery than I really care to show :shakefist:

I hope I can be a bit more productive this year (not that I'm off to a good start) I made and submitted only 14 personal works last year. However I still believe in quality over quantity, I'd still be fine even just posting once a month so long as its something I'm proud of, but maybe I can try and go for a little more this time :fingerscrossed:
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DeathInTheReaper Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I wasn't aware that scraps counted toward the deviation count. I guess that's good to know. Also, it isn't so bad having your crappier pieces tucked away in the scrap folder. It's always nice to be able to go through your recent stuff and then look at what you did years ago and see all the progress you've made. If everything in your gallery and scraps is too new then it's harder to see how much farther you've come.

And don't be hard on yourself about how much you've submitted. You put so much work into your pieces and I'd think doing big space artwork is a bit more time consuming than drawing people in a way.
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Wen-JR Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
As long as you feel better, It's all i need to know :D


Bring back some art man !!!!
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I do :)

I think I might be more motivated to do some art once I deal with a bunch of little things. Last year I decided to totally re-do all my self made 3D models, textures, Photoshop brushes etc since I have previously been using the same old ones for years. That way with everything seriously updated I can produce better looking art in less time. I started of well - but it became tedious after weeks of doing it all. Though some comparisons between old and new models/brushes certainly showed much more potential in the new ones (higher resolution, more details etc) But I kinda stopped midway. Sometimes this year I'll have to continue to build up a nice bank of personal resources :plotting:
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Wen-JR Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
if you build a bank of ressourses make sure to save some back-up i lost so many good stuff like that >_____<

cool to hear ! :D
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I must admit I haven't done backups in ages :fear: Usually I try to finish something whole before doing so. It gets confusing when even your backup files are half-done :confused:
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KakashiMorph Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
Oooh a new meme. New years are a good time to start anew, for many people. ;)
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priteeboy Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, just in case the deviation might be a hit, I want to keep it until I have the most appropriate time to submit it, Plus I want to get a "normal" work in before I do too :XD:

Yes, my new years resolution - if any, is to trying and deal with small but numerous unfinished buisness (more realistic than all those who said "I'm gonna stop drinking and lose weight" :lmao:)
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KakashiMorph Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2012
I don't do resolutions at all (so that I don't fail myself |D). Good luck!
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