I was talking to a friend *ExtremeProjects a while back and making comments about how for a more varied and natural-looking aerial Vue render, more than just one layer of spectral ("true 3D clouds" for the un-educated) clouds to fill the sky below the viewer. Here I used three, one forming the commonly seen "carpet of clouds" that filled the bottom. Another forming the isolated towers of bigger clouds that go above eye-level. And another for the small fragments of altocumulus-like clouds above eye level but still seen in front of the tallest parts of the big clouds.
Problem is that Spectral clouds are slow to render, having three type sof them made it worse and so this took over 7 hours to render at 1400x875px... which is a pretty small resolution by my standards. I stupidly left Global radiosity lighting on and used volumetric lighting too, that slowed it by a bit I bet
I think the camera was 5km off the ground and the atmosphere aerial perspective was 3.50. Quality boost was only small
Still, while the clouds aren't perfect I think it's pretty cool compared to most Vue sky-scenes, see another multi-cloud layer render Vue clouds test2
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Well it's sort of not completely finished yet hahaha it is cover art for an upcoming game, which I'm making for myself, just for the heck of it. Resolution.... 2560x3626 which is pretty damn big.. when the computer's RAM is only *laughs* 128.... MB
"if the computer crashes while rendering a few days in it can all be lost" that one reason why I really like Bryce, simply because there you can start a render, let it render for 30 mins, stop it, save the file shut down the software.. and resume the render at a later time without having to start all over. No hazzle no problems. For a render which would normally take 2 days you can simply stop the it a few times a day and save it then right after resume, just in case it would crash.
I'm going to upgrade to a brand new POWERFUL iMac very soon though so things will go a heeeeell of a lot faster
It must be the RAM to blame then, since I render nearly twice that size on average (I hover around the 4500px wide mark with 3D art, and a bit bigger with digital paintings since there's no rendering there ) and even at that size it usually takes a few days at worst. If it looks like it'll take more I start getting rid of things that may slow down the render speed which aren't that important or could be postworked in, or sadly just settle for a smaller resolution which really limits size in print sales
Vue has a "resume render" feature too but I'm not sure that saves with the file of it it gets lost once the computer is shut down. I usually render scenes in "areas" too, save what's done so far and sometimes leave the computer on - but not actually working for a while so it can cool off a bit before I resume again. I just hate leaving it running while I'm sleeping - the noise keeps me awake and worrying about it crashing means I get no sleep either as I regularly get up and check it throughout the night
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4500... wide, wow that is a bit bigger yeah. Do you do any animation?
Yeah, must be the RAM, the iMac I'm going to buy will have 12 GB of RAM which I think is "fairly okay" hehe. You can never have too much, at least in my opinon.
I used a laptop actually, a Windows Vista which worked fine until a couple of months ago when it now restarts at random and thinks "shut down" means "restart" - the stupid thing has gone restart-happy actually and I've lost a lot of work because of it but it has 4GB of RAM - that did me well until I started those 360 degree "vue it" things, but for those I'd really like more RAM - making them needs SO MUCH!
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Yeah, for the first couple of years my Vista was fine, I didn't understand all the hate towards. Now it's gone to the shitter, nothing does what I want it to I'd like to upgrade to a new computer, but doing so will cost all the money I have. Not worth it until I start making more regular money off commissions (at least a couple hundred a week - so far that's my average over a couple of months ) Hopefully Windows 7 is better, I really want to avoid all the hassle of converting everything to a Mac or other
I did some animations a few years ago in Vue, each no longer than 10 seconds long - each averaging around 3 days to render. So not worth it
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I have used Win 7 for quite a bit and it's great, best windows yet. I'll be using both windows AND MacOS on the iMac I'm getting best of both worlds sorta speak.
Yeah animation is a pain in the behind. Even more so now when it "should" be in HD also. But totally worth it haha
7 hours to render...?? That's nothing.. my longest running rendered image took about 3 and half - 4 months to finish. AND it was just one of five rendered images part of a big-ass composition
Man, not even scenes from movies take that long to render (granted they do have ridiculously big renderfarms) I'm interested to know what the picture was and its resolution...not to mention the computer's RAM power
A week is my own set limit and so far I have only gotten halfway to that much in my longest render. Anything longer than a week isn't worth the wait unless it was a high-paying commission, and even then - if the computer crashes while rendering a few days in it can all be lost
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The only thing worse than a closed mind is one with an open mouth.
"if the computer crashes while rendering a few days in it can all be lost" that one reason why I really like Bryce, simply because there you can start a render, let it render for 30 mins, stop it, save the file shut down the software.. and resume the render at a later time without having to start all over. No hazzle no problems. For a render which would normally take 2 days you can simply stop the it a few times a day and save it then right after resume, just in case it would crash.
I'm going to upgrade to a brand new POWERFUL iMac very soon though so things will go a heeeeell of a lot faster
Vue has a "resume render" feature too but I'm not sure that saves with the file of it it gets lost once the computer is shut down. I usually render scenes in "areas" too, save what's done so far and sometimes leave the computer on - but not actually working for a while so it can cool off a bit before I resume again. I just hate leaving it running while I'm sleeping - the noise keeps me awake and worrying about it crashing means I get no sleep either as I regularly get up and check it throughout the night
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The only thing worse than a closed mind is one with an open mouth.
4500... wide, wow
Yeah, must be the RAM, the iMac I'm going to buy will have 12 GB of RAM which I think is "fairly okay" hehe. You can never have too much, at least in my opinon.
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aaand HAVE you done any animation, like in vue?
I did some animations a few years ago in Vue, each no longer than 10 seconds long - each averaging around 3 days to render. So not worth it
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The only thing worse than a closed mind is one with an open mouth.
Yeah animation is a pain in the behind. Even more so now when it "should" be in HD also. But totally worth it haha
A week is my own set limit and so far I have only gotten halfway to that much in my longest render. Anything longer than a week isn't worth the wait unless it was a high-paying commission, and even then - if the computer crashes while rendering a few days in it can all be lost
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The only thing worse than a closed mind is one with an open mouth.